11.h - "Refusing The Call"

Jenny and Ted discuss Infestation 11.h.

Episode Notes:

• Jenny didn’t see it coming but Ted brought receipts
• Look, I know you weren’t asking, but the incest math checks out
• Amy got her “resenting an unwanted burden” from her mom I guess
• Intrusive romantic feelings are deeply tragic
• Jenny and Ted do what Assault and Battery simply refuse to do
• Amy’s fantasies and fatalism
• The category of “healing” never really cohered
• Bonesaw kicks Amy across a series of red lines and Amy’s like “guess it’s purge rules for me now YOLO”
• Reading between the lines, Amy’s just making excuses
• Ted makes a pretty bad analogy to Canary but give him a second he explains it better
• Amy’s power is so dangerous to herself and others that the Protectorate really fucked up by not getting to her before Bonesaw
• Victoria, sowing: Just use your fucking power on brains already! Victoria, reaping: Well this fucking sucks, I love you, what the fuck
• So… would you really handle it any better than Victoria, listeners?
• Ted speculates that this was really triggering for Victoria
• Calling back to the “bus kiss”
• At least we met a more functional lesbian first
• “Evil” feelings don’t make you evil, and isn’t everybody kind of fucked up anyway?
• Amy craves novelty and lacks empathy… but for pretty okay reasons!!!
• What Amy can learn from Bonesaw: the power of a growth mindset
• Is Amy’s power a threat to her sense of self in an existential way?
• Bonesaw pushes Amy down the slippery slope and it all feels so easy
• Is Amy gettable? Nah, but partly because she doesn’t believe in herself
• Morality and fellowship seem completely alien to Bonesaw
• Wait, how old exactly was Bonesaw when she triggered?
• You can be a good scientist without being a good person
• Bonesaw would not approve of this podcast’s explicit rating
• Are the powers parasites? Tools? Agents?
• If the who and what of powers are accidents, is there a why?
• Bonesaw scoops Faultline’s thesis project
• Yeah, of course all of the bio-manipulators will have major issues!
• Ted reveals his pro-Bonesaw bias and Jenny pitches the best Worm adaptation yet
• Did Carol leave that letter for Amy to find?
• Parenting is necessarily coercive
• Ted celebrates a well-constructed tragic plot
• Amy’s not learning very good lessons from her no good terrible very bad day
• Thinking back to Victoria in Dennis’ chapter
• Is Panacea a rogue?
• We might be harder on Mark if Carol wasn’t right there in comparison
• Ted’s worst date
• Fates worse than death
• Bonesaw reminds us that the hero / villain arms race is ongoing
• Hatchet Face is Michael Myers
• Jenny looks in the mirror
• Maybe part of Amy’s curse is that her power is too easy to use
• The arachnid system
• As much as Amy needs a therapist you can’t lead with that, Victoria
• Predictions

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